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Well, thank you for caring enough to get this input from those that have left a church. We were at the same church for 35 years and thought of it as home and would never leave. Both of our sons were baptized there and one was married there. But alas, we finally left over two years ago. We searched around for another spiritual home and after several tries for a comfort zone, we found it. We are now very happy in a church nearby of the same denomination.

Our old church started disregarding the congregation and the pastor spoke down to us rather than teach us. He got very political and when folks didn’t feel the same way he did, he would disregard them and ignore them on campus. Very childish and arrogant behavior. When anyone had a differing opinion, he said “maybe God is telling you to leave” and come to find out he told lots of others the exact same thing. We were very involved in the church in various ways. My husband was a former consistory member and a real leader not only in the church but in the area. I was involved in numerous committees and we both were former Sunday School teachers.

I guess the saddest part is that our relationship with this pastor affected our relationship with God. It took us a while to realize that we were falling out of the habit of going to church because of him. He actually was filtering us from God. I offered to do FREE focus groups so that someone would pay attention to all those that were leaving (this is my profession). I did a series of four focus groups with all reaching almost exactly the same opinions and nothing was done about it. It wasn’t even until I mentioned too a friend who was on the consistory that they were shared with them. Basically we let him rule the church in his way and not what the greater congregation wanted. Sadly the church is now a shadow of itself with families of four generations there who have now left. Financially it is in tight straights.

Thank God, we found a great church and now remember what joy in celebration is. The services are alive and personalities never factor in. We are at the right place because if we had stayed at our old church we would not be attending at all.

Makes me feel better to get this off my chest. I wish someone would listen when an individual destroys a wonderful church.


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The Control of Ministry

I’m a minister to junior high, high school and college students. I’m pursuing other jobs at this point in an effort to get out of my current church before it crushes me under the weight of unfair expectations, unwarranted and biased criticisms over inconsequential matters that have no real bearing on the kingdom of God either negatively or positively, and a methodology and philosophy that wreaks of “the American Way.” It is a church that prides itself on doing, doing, doing, with no regard for the lives of its members and more importantly its staff. The senior pastor is in firm control of every aspect of the church and his word is infallible law, never to be questioned, for if one does question it they are immediately labeled a rogue and rebel, and not a “team-player.” There is no compromise, no seeking of better ways to do ministry outside of minor, insignificant changes such as music and different programs. Everything fits within the box that the minister has created, and that is agreed upon by a team of elder’s that the minister has basically hand-selected, and, who, according to my observations, would not dare challenge that box. I have no voice here, nothing to contribute, nothing to add to the mix, because I have a much larger vision of what the church is called to be, something more than a country-club that talks about Jesus and does churchy things.

So I’m leaving. As soon as I can.

I really don’t know what the future holds for my life as a follower of Jesus. I want to follow him, love humanity, serve the least and the last, share my life and possessions with others, because this is what the early church was and should be. I am not content with being a member of a church and don’t see much point in it anymore since most of what the IC exists for is its own preservation and well-being.

I have to leave before the church kills me and destroys my desire to do ministry ever again in any kind of context, whether professional (not a chance in hell!) or lay.


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Why I Left and Returned

I left my church–not all at once–but in a gradual drifting away that took place over the course of a year. I was 18 and planning to attend a Christian college that was not run by the denomination in which I was raised. My family moved to Guam a few weeks after I graduated from high school–which seemed about as far away as they could be from where I was living. I would never have admitted it but I was desperately homesick and the first thing I did was get into a relationship that summer with a guy from high school who was agnostic and highly intelligent.

Whenever I attended church I felt like an alien and when we sang hymns and choruses I would keenly miss my family and feel completely alone and desolate, often blinking tears away. When I was with my boyfriend, I felt happy and wasn’t lonely at all. He was happy and untroubled by living under the assumption that no one could know if there was a god and that it didn’t matter very much. I enjoyed working, earning a little money, and living without any of the rules and structures imposed by my parents. It was very easy that summer to let church go by the wayside. “I’ll just read my Bible on Sunday mornings,” I promised myself. After spending the summer that way, it was difficult to see any need to return to church and my Bible reading and prayer became less frequent.

By fall, when I was living at the college, I didn’t think I had time or need for personal, devotional Bible reading since we had mandatory chapel services three times weekly and I was taking an Old Testament class. Prayer had become more or less like Adam and Eve in the Garden after eating the fruit: lots of defensiveness and hiding. I didn’t see the need to return to my former church for services and activities since there was so much available at school and, quite frankly, no one seemed to miss me. Apart from two or three phone calls in my first year at school from the church family with whom I’d lived that summer before my freshman year, I don’t recall being contacted by any of my parents’ friends, youth leaders, or college class leaders and I wouldn’t have returned anyway had they contacted me. The church that had seemed like home for the years prior now seemed like a foreign land.

I spent the next four years studying and living in the dorms, hanging out with friends, working–the basic college experience. On the surface, I appeared to be a nice Christian girl (as a minister’s daughter I knew how to play the part by habit) but inside I was filled with questions and doubts which all seemed to be increased by the content and discussions in my classes. I was amazed to learn that the content of the Bible had been chosen by groups (councils) of men and that some books had been excluded that other churches used. Somehow, I’d gotten this idea in my mind that the Bible was just delivered from heaven in a pristine state and been passed down from generation to generation. This really shook my confidence in “the whole thing”–God, Jesus, Christianity, the church. I remember thinking, “This whole thing is just made up by people and everyone is deluded.” Thinking a little more about the people I’d known in the church, it seemed that they were nothing like Jesus anyway. I was really confused. It would be fair to say I’d never really learned to THINK and attending my Christian liberal arts college was the mental equivalent of a serious earthquake.

I had a professor whose mission seemed to be to offer insights that would shake the foundations of kids who came from conservative evangelical homes like mine–but not to use his brilliant mind to offer insights on how to believe in anything after the foundations were destroyed. By the end of my junior year, I was operating under the idea that there was no God and that my own experience of the world around me and my journey in life was all there was.

One of my biggest regrets is that I didn’t try to find someone who was older, wiser, and filled with faith–someone who had really grappled with doubt and still believed to whom I could bring my questions who would help me work through them.

I met my husband toward the end of my junior year and we ended up marrying the year after I graduated. He was also a person who would say he was a Christian and yet never read the Bible; if he prayed, that was his business. He didn’t like to talk about his spiritual life and felt it was invasive if I wanted to discuss it. He had more doubts than I did. We happily agreed to skip church and did so until our first child was born. Always, in the back of my mind, was the thought that I had to re-open the issue, not let the God question go unanswered: I owed it to my daughter to take another look at Christianity if I was going to be a good mom. Plus, I missed how life felt with some kind of direction and purpose. I felt very confused and uncertain internally in a godless, churchless, Bible-free life. Still, I didn’t do anything about it. It was easy to get busy every day and put a search for belief on the back burner.

Some members of a religion that uses many Christian ideas but is considered a cult by Christians were visiting our apartment complex and it occurred to me that I’d always heard they were a cult but hadn’t ever heard from any of them what they believed. I let them start coming by once a week for a study of their literature and found it to be pretty convoluted. I thought it might be fun to argue with them a little, using what I remembered from my years growing up in a Christian home. It was fun and their belief system seemed really flimsy compared to the core Christian doctrines I’d heard growing up. I started reading “Mere Christianity” by C.S. Lewis and re-reading the gospels. By the end of “Mere Christianity,” I realized that I had been pretty intellectually empty in my rejection of Christianity. I began to see that I might have been wrong about Jesus and was still tripping over all the ridiculous trappings of the church, like church jargon, church social customs, long lists of do’s and don’ts…but one day I found myself sitting on the floor in my apartment with a crushing, burning need to know if God was real. I didn’t know what to do except to try asking Him if He was.

I just looked up at the ceiling and asked, “God, I need to know if You are real,” and within seconds of that, I felt an amazing sense of presence, of being with someone. Part of my mind knew this was the presence of God and the other part was wondering what was going on. I felt as if a voice–but not an audible voice–said, “I am real and I love you.” It was an amazing moment. When it passed, I knew that I didn’t have to have all the answers right away but that I needed to reconnect with the Lord. I told Him that I would come back but He would have to help me. I knew I couldn’t make it completely on my own and would have to return to a church setting.

I’m often amused and irritated by myself and other Christians but have accepted that the only people in the church are going to be the only kind of people there are: imperfect human beings like me who are doing the best they can and are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ. My ability to love others is slowly growing and I hope by the time I die it’ll be much better than it was. I am so much happier than I was when I didn’t believe.


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Follow The Bread Crumbs

I was first touch by God when I was 12 years old, then a few years later I encountered the Holy Spirit and my walk with God took to a new dimension. One day while reading my Bible i came across Paul’s letter to the Galations and I read His instruction to walk in the Spirit. Immediately those words came alive and jumped off the page. God was giving me a glimpse of a place in Him where we could walk in victory. From that moment forward my heart yearned for something more of God. I use to sit in the Sunday service and feel fed after I heard the message, but now I was unsatisfied — I hungered for more, but had no idea which way to turn. I was looking for bread crumbs.

I began to visit other churches thinking that I may be more satisfied somewhere else. I could not find the trail out of the woods. No matter which way I turned i felt lost and could not satisfy my hunger. Then I noticed a sister in my church who seemed to have a more substantial walk with God. I was drawn to the life I sensed in her. A shortly time later she quit attending our church. She said that God had called her out of the system. This was twenty years before George Barna’s Revolution so this was a very unusal move for all of us to watch. One sister asked, “Dorothy, were do you go when you leave the church?” Dorothy replied, “You go to Him.”

A few months later my path started crossing with others who had left the institutional church in persuit of God. They all came from a variety of backgrounds, Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, and Pentecostal. I was astounded because they were all speaking the same things! The only time I had experienced this kind of seeing eye to eye was when I met someone who was from the same denomination as I had come from. I realzed that each of these folks were speaking the same things because they were each sitting under the same teacher, the Holy Spirit!

It wasn’t long before I found the trail of bread crumbs leading me to this group of outcasts. When we prayed and fellowshiped together I found that I was satisfied spiritually. I was hearing from god and His word was being confirmed in my life! This was the beginning of my journey into a deeper place. At first I wondered why others could not see there was more and why they were satisfied with just being good folk, saying amen while the pastor preached and attending church three times a week.

That was over thirty years ago. Since then I have experience many ups and down, but overall I have seen God reveal Himself in my life as I have sought to follow Him. Jesus said the Kingdom of God is within us, yet we continue to look outward, replacing what is real with religious information. I am so grateful that God continues to reveal Himself to those who hear His call. We still see through a glass darkly, but little by little we are recognizing His life in us and we are starting to see Him as He is. If we follow the bread crumbs we will learn to listen to the the still small voice within, as the Holy Spirit reveals the life of Jesus Christ in us.

Douglas B. Clark
www.theinwardjourney.net
http://feed.theinwardjourney.net


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The Covenant Community

The old is a shadow of the new.  The new is always better than the old.  The Old Testament Temple was built out of living stones.  It was not build with bricks and held together with tar or cement, like the pyramids.  The living stones in the Temple was cut and chiseled in such a manner that one stone fitted with another.

In the New Covenant, we are the Temple of God.  1 Corinthians 3:16-17 and 1 Corinthians 6:19 confirms this fact.  Christ is the living stone of this Temple and He is the foundation stone, the cornerstone and the capstone.  1 Peter 2:4-5, says that we ‘like’ the living stone are being built into a spiritual house (Temple).  There is no place for any artificiality like programs or projects, to hold His people together in the new spiritual house that God is building.  People of God in the New, come together because of covenant and relationships formed with one another.

I had a dream some time ago. In the dream I saw a beautiful traditional church building, with stain glass windows, with carved doors and standing ever so big and magnificient.  This church building was standing in the valley, next to a huge montain.  On top of the mountain was another much smaller building.  It was a very strange building.  It was a building made out of people.  People standing next to each other and one on top of the other. Suddenly a Hand comes out of the Heavens and rolls this small building of people down the huge mountain.  As the building of people rolls down the huge mountain, more and more people gets enjoined to this building and it grows bigger and bigger in size.  In no time, it grows to be bigger than the traditional church in the valley.  This building of people rolls down the huge mountain and smashes the traditional church in the valley.  The building of people does not stop there but keeps rolling on and on.

Such a time is coming.  The Hand of the Lord has started a movement.  Luke 12:32 says, ‘Fear not little flock; for it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the Kingdom’.  As this movement of little flock rolls down the mountain, it draws many unto it and eventually smashes the traditional.

Why the little flock?  Because prophecy has got to be fulfilled.  Jeremiah 50:45 says that the little flock will draw out Babylon make her habitation desolate.  The nations have gotten drunk with the filth and evils of Babylon. The Lord cries to His people, ‘Come out of Babylon!’  The little flock is the prophecy of God who will expose Babylon and set His people free.


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