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10 Reasons Why I left my Church

10. Hypocrisy by those in power.  Can’t deal with those egos any longer. I have an issue and get quoted scripture to reveal my short comings.  Pastor has similar issue but he’s justified in his actions, because he’s the shepherd, after all.

9. Myth of Community. My church was great about talking the talk but sadly, not walking the walk. If you were in the clique,  (families with small kids) you were taken care of, everyone else was expected to babysit for them etc but got no help at all, when they needed something. I was very ill recently, out of church for nearly 2 months and only 2 out of about 60 every bothered to see if i was alive. Ironically, my non Christian friends were wonderfully supportive and acted more like Jesus, then anyone in my church did.

8. Desire to grow larger, not to serve God but to serve man.  We did not need a new meeting space as the old one was perfectly adequate. I would rather see that money go to the poor then for more new programs committees etc.  The Pastor admitted he wants to be famous and of course, being more visible as a church is way to accomplish this.

7 Tired of the same old formula. Sing some Christian lite songs, announcements, prayer requests, sermon, more songs, end. No space for the holy spirit to move, no spontaneity, safe, boring routine every week.

6.  Me and God like hanging out together outside. Maybe it’s my years of paganism but I just don’t feel close to God in some building. I’ve tried and tried but find myself looking out the windows on Sunday morning yearning to be out in nature worshipping Him in his creation.

5 Bashing other religions, particularly, Catholicism. My husband is a born again Catholic and one of the most Godly men I’ve ever met, but he was continually hurt by people making nasty and ignorant remarks about Catholics. Hey guys, we’re all playing for the same team!

4. Where in the bible does it say that God is a right wing conservative Republican or for that matter, a liberal Democrat? I tried very carefully to keep my political views out of church but was constantly challenged by my fellow Christians. To the pastors credit he tried to control this but hey, people are people. I was severely chastised for my political affiliations when i shared with someone I thought I could trust. And lets not forget the email forwards from random church folk, all pushing a right wing agenda or the  Obama is the antichrist and/ or/ a  Muslim ones, too.

3. Twisting the bible to justify ones position on anything. Seen it in both churches I’ve attended, find it disturbing.

2. Where’s the outreach? I live in a very poor area where people have very simple needs like housing food medical care that are not being met. My church seldom reached out to anyone in need outside the church community. I do volunteer work on my own, Everything from working at the catholic homeless shelter to handing out food for the secular, Food not Bombs program in the park. The few church sponsored outreaches always ended up being a pat ourselves on the back fest for helping those poor folk. Also find Foreign mission trips ridiculous, when there are desperate people right down the street.

1.  If anything good happens to you it’s God, anything bad happens it’s your own fault for not trusting Him enough. No credit for your own efforts, which i believe are led by God.


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divine healing?

Why is it that when bad things happen, Christians are quick to warn you not to “blame God” and to “trust God” for the outcome? And when things finally start to get better everyone assumes it is because “God has brought healing”….so He gets the credit when things go well, but cannot take the “blame” when life sucks. My daughter had been in a wheelchair for 3 years due to various chronic illnesses and a Td shot reaction. After much medical intervention,prayer,  hospitalizations, prayer, medications, (did I mention prayer?) my daugther(age16) took it upon herself to find a nutritional plan for her situation. She found the vegan raw foods diet and intuitively knew it would help her. Short story, after 4 months in this lifestyle she is now walking! YES! Actually, she was dancing around the frontroom tonight! Interestingly, all the people in our church want to discount all the WORK she has done (let me tell you, it takes dedication to juice fast, find intersting recipes, abstain from your former favorite junk foods, etc.) and just glibly say “how amazing it is that God healed her!” She and I have spend some wonderful time with new found friends in this movement (mostly secular) who love her and want to encourage her in her new found lifestyle of wellness.  Now we are both questioning the church “system” and trying to figure out if it’s still a place we want to be. She is ready to move on, while I struggle with the emotional baggage of trying to change at my age. She is asking honest questions about the old testament, the balance of God’s love and wrath, justice, suffering, do babies go to heaven and all the rest.  Not sure what will be next. It feels like I have taken a leap off of a tall building, not sure where I will land. Hopefully it will be with both feet firmly grounded in reality and a heart open to truth.

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Deacon & Usher (Buzzards Who Left)

Usher: Can we put this all in a letter Deak?

Deacon: I don’t think so, it would be volumes!

Usher: So should we invite them to our site?

Deacon: Please do…

Usher: Welcome all to a site (deaconandusher.wordpress.com) that’s about today’s unconnected, irrelevant and disfigured church.  Come join us as we delineate “the church that man has built” and the church of the body of Christ.

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Unrequited love

Dear my former church

I dearly wish you had been everything you said you were. I wih you had been a community.  I wish you had been a place genuinely committed to people’s healing, a place where people could ask questions, a place were people honoured commitments, a place where people extended care.

I loved you so much and I gave you my time, my heart, my life.  And you go on, unaffected by my life, unaffected by the lives of many like me who were spat out, confused, heartbroken and bewildered.  Those of us who loved you so much but were never loved back because we didn’t somehow fit the mould - whatever that mould was.

It wasn’t just that I was on your staff team but unlike other staff members you weren’t interested in my development and that as soon as the leadership changed you made me redundant without taking time to get to know who I was, what I could do, what I was called to, what I dreamed of.

Nor was it just that the people in the church who promised they would not abandon and hurt me as others had done, that they were committed to me no matter what didn’t hold true to their words, didn’t care, had better things to do, better people to spend time with.

Although those things hurt, it was the way you brushed aside my questions and confusion and hurt that killed me the most - not just because it happened to me but because it could happen to so many others like me.  Because you think everything that happened is purely down to me being just generally messed up, therefore there is nothing to learn from this experience for you.

When I said I wasn’t sure what the gospel was, when I didn’t see the things in the Bible reflected in my life, when I never felt peace or joy or any of that stuff, when everything God said to me the opposite happened, when my head and heart were so messed up by the failure of God’s word to come to fruition, when I saw no fulfillment on his promises or people’s promises, when I found no healing despite so much prayer ministry, when I asked for help because worship services always made me feel evil and because every Christian I tried to befriend ignored me no matter what I tried, when I was told (and was convinced myself) there were demons in me and most of all when I was devastated to the point of self-harming, panicking and attempting suicide because I had no love, no support and no answers, you told me everything that happened was my fault (with no explanation of why), you shouted at me for being upset and you told me to get over myself.

When I was most in need of people to lament for me, to call out to God for me, to sit in the sackcloth and ashes, you told me there was nothing that could be done for me and cut me off.

 What will you do to the next depressed person, the drug addict, the prostitute, the next lonely person, the bereaved, the outcast?   You say you want people like this in your church - but you don’t.  Only the sorted, the popular, the straightforward fit in.  the messy are only allowed if they get unmessy very quickly.  There is no room for questions, no room for doubt and very little love for anyone who isn’t perfect.

I believed you, I believed God and I took the most risks I have ever taken in my life in loving, trusting and hoping him and you.

After nine years in your church I left in a worse mess than when I joined (no mean feat), and I’m not sure I will ever join a church again, other than some charade attendance to please my family who would emotionally blackmail and nag me to death if I ever dared to not be a good Christian.  In my own heart though, I would no longer call myself a Christian, or at least I would say I was an agnostic Christian although I still try to live by some Christian principles, and I would still love it to be true.

I don’t think I will ever understand what happened - and until I do I will never dare take the same risks of loving, believing or trusting again.

Before I joined your church I was scared to hope, to love, to trust, to believe.  You made me drop my guard and then beat me to death when I was most vulnerable.  I loved you so much, but it was an abusive relationship.  You made out I was the abusive one because I wasn’t perfect, because I wasn’t straightforward, because I got upset, I questioned, I expected returns on the things I was promised.  All I did was believe and trust and obey - and have the audactity to hurt and to question when these things didn’t work.

I just wish you’d wanted me to be a part of you as much as I wanted to be. 

I know what I believed God said to me, and so many of you confirmed those things.  Just because you then randomly decided to do the opposite to what God was saying and told me I needed to go with your decisions because they must be from God even though you’d had no ‘words’ or anything doesn’t mean what you did was of Him.  I may have heard him wrong, but if that is possible, it is also possible your words and decisions were wrong, especially as many of them were conflicting and contradictory.  I wish someone had cared enough to at least understand the confusion and sit with me through it.  The one person I trusted most even said they had to leave me because they were getting confused too and couldn’t handle it.

I know you would tell me the way I am living (by not going to church etc) is wrong, but no more wrong than the things you said or did.  I don’t know any more if there is a right, if there is a God.  If there was, why didn’t he intervene? 

Life is not the way your preach it to be (become a Christian, do everything God’s way, do everything you are told, and your life will be amazing) and until you accept it, your large front door and large back door will always remain.

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Holy Spirit Has Called Us Out Of ‘church’

We spent the last three years searching for a church that would simply stand on the bible. We found none! We prayed and God has showed us clearly the ‘church’ of today is pagan, not biblical, and down right evil.

It is not the church(body of believers) of the book of Acts, It is clearly man made and not of God! 

 God is calling his own out of this wicked man made instution called ‘church’! We are out and have never been happier, closer to God, and able to be lead by the Holy Spirit in more ways!

Amen! Thank you Holy Spirit for you guiding my family into all truth!


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